Any one for Miracles? – Response to Comments

 Here is a response to the comments left on my previous post “Any one for Miracles?”

Blog Comment

Jesus was not God, he had the holy spirit of God; was born as a miracle of Virgin Mary and was the God’s “word” and prophet on earth. Jesus says in the Bible :”Do not pray to me, but to the “Father” (God). If Jesus himself was the God, he would say, “Pray to me!”

As for the miracles, we live in a universum of miracles.

With or without praying, God watches us, helps us, punishes us, as needed. We are not alone.

Best wishes for lots of miracles to you !

 

 

My Reply

Well there is an opener for you “Jesus was not God”. What can we deduce from that? Are you saying that he was not God, but now is? I’m guessing not.

Jesus was God

There is so much evidence in the bible that Jesus was God.

Jesus Makes Himself Equal to God

John 5:18 (English Standard Version)

This was why the Jews were seeking all the more to kill him, because not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God.

Jesus Makes Himself Equal to God

John 8:58 (English Standard Version)

Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am.”

This is particularly interesting in that by Jesus using the phrase “I am”, which is clearly grammatically incorrect, is equating himself with God (Yahweh). This would have been easily
recognisable by his Jewish listeners as the part of their scriptures (Our Old Testament) God tells them his name

Exodus 3:14 (English Standard Version)

God said to Moses, “I AM WHO I AM.” And he said, “Say this to the people of Israel, ‘I AM has sent me to you.’”

There is no doubt here that Jesus was equating himself with Yahweh the God of the Jews that is with God himself

Jesus Says He & God are One!

John 10:30 (English Standard Version)

I (Jesus) and the Father are one.”

The Apostle Paul Confirms This

Colossians 2:9 (English Standard Version)

For⁾ in him the whole fullness of deity dwells bodily,

I think this is pretty conclusive! There are other scriptures too!

 

Jesus Had the Holy Spirit of God

It seems that we agree that Jesus had the Holy Spirit of God as I think that the bible clearly states that.

Luke 3:22 (English Standard Version)

and the Holy Spirit descended on him [Jesus] in bodily form, like a dove; and a voice came from heaven, “You are my beloved Son; with you I am well pleased.”

Luke 4:1 (English Standard Version)

And Jesus, full of the Holy Spirit, returned from the Jordan and was led by the Spirit in the wilderness

Jesus Was born as a Miracle of Virgin Mary

No argument there!

Matthew 1:18 (English Standard Version)

Now the birth of Jesus Christ took place in this way. When his mother Mary had been betrothed to Joseph, before they came together she was found to be with child from the Holy Spirit.

Luke 1:35 (English Standard Version)

And the angel answered her, “The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you; therefore the child to be born will be called holy—the Son of God.

Jesus was the God’s “word”

Still agreeing with you here as the bible agrees with you. Below we read that “the Word” became flesh and dwelt among us. That is the word became Jesus as a Man

John 1:14-18 (English Standard Version)

14And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth. 15( John bore witness about him, and cried out, “This was he of whom I said, ‘He who comes after me ranks before me, because he was before me.’”) 16And from his fullness we have all received, grace upon grace. 17For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ. 18 No one has ever seen God; the only God, who is at the Father’s side, he has made him known.

However, I think that whilst we are in agreement that Jesus was God’s “Word” this statement contradicts the opening statement that “Jesus was not God” as the opening verse of same chapter clearly states that this “word of God” who you agree was Jesus is also God, not a prophet of God, but God himself.

John 1:1 (English Standard Version)

 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Clearly if you believe that Jesus was “the word” of God then you must accept that he WAS GOD!

Jesus Said “Do Not Pray to Me”

T o simply state “Jesus says in the Bible :’Do not pray to me, but to the ‘Father’ (God). If Jesus himself was the God, he would say, ‘Pray to me!’” and not provide any references to support
your claim is not all that fair. However, I guess you are refereeing to when the disciples asked Jesus how they should pray and he answers

Matthew 6:9 (English Standard Version)

Pray then like this
“Our Father in heaven, hallowed be
your name

Agreed here was directing the disciples to pray to the father (God). However this is not the only passage in the Gospels that explain prayer. In John 14:1-14 we read that Jesus declares that he is the only way to God (John 14:6) and that he will soon go to be with the father. He then explains that when he has gone to be with the father that if we ask him for anything he will do it.

John 14:13-14 (English Standard Version)

13 Whatever you ask in my name, this I will do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14 If you ask me anything in my name, I will do it.

This can only refer to prayer as he is talking about when he has gone to be with the Father and is no longer with the disciples in body.

As for the miracles, we live in a universum of miracles

Not sure how to respond to this as “Universum” is not even a word according to dictionary.com and a search of Google gives a Branding company or an Australian Melodic
Death Metal band which in itself sounds like an oxymoron if ever there was one! Anyway, to say we live in a world of miracles then I guess at one level we do. The fact that the earth keeps spinning; that the universe continues at all is a miracle in my book. So God thus sustains everything and is performing miracles constantly. I was however referring to specific miracles following prayer to
Yahweh of the bible the great God above all gods. The one true god. I am referring to praying for the sick and seeing them healed. Now Jesus referred to this in Mark 16:18 that various things will accompany those that believe in him (Jesus) and specifically cites healing. There are numerous other examples of Jesus healing the sick, and many others throughout the New Testament. Jesus disciples after being empowered by the Holy Spirit healed the sick in Acts. So I am fully expectant that as I continue to pray and pursue opportunities to pray for the sick that I will see people healed! Miracles in my hand!